epa10632971 U.S. President Joe Biden delivers remarks at the 2023 Emily’s List Anthem Gala in Washington, DC, U.S., May 16, 2023. EPA, Sarah Silbiger, POOL
By MICHALIS IGNATIOU
Hellas Journal, Washington
United States President Joe Biden as Democratic Party candidate for the November 2020 election, sat down with a group of New York Times reporters, in a boilerplate interview.
It was agreed to be recorded and published in full by the newspaper, in its online edition, as it stood on January 17, 2020. Two days later it was also published in the regular newspaper.
Mr. Biden, as can be seen in the video, was in good spirits and answered without fear, but with passion, all the questions of the journalists of the prestigious American newspaper.
As few expected, the future US president was also asked about Turkey’s strongman, the problematic and delinquent Tayyip Erdogan. Mr. Biden did not mince his words. As one of the few American politicians to know the Islamist Turkish president inside out and to mess around, his opinions are shocking.
- He knows him very well. She had to calm him down when he acted anti-American and anti-Western and in 2014 he apologized when he was accused of insulting Islam.
Again, in 2016, he was forced to travel to Turkey, as Vice President under Barack Obama, to assure him that America was not behind the “coup” of the 15her July of the same year. After all, the Americans knew it was a fancy coup, which would not have failed if they had planned it themselves.
Mr. Biden then also made statements, after his meeting with Erdogan, in which he was absolute about Washington’s non-participation.
From his statements to the newspaper’s reporters, it is clear that he does not have the slightest love for the President of Turkey. And he admits that he must be overthrown, but by elections, not by a coup. He even underlines it twice.
As President of the United States, he never invited him to visit the White House. It is unclear if he will if Erdogan is re-elected on May 28.
But she met him in various capitals of Europe, where their disagreements were not hidden, although the American announcements still did not tell the truth, except in one case in Rome. White House national security adviser Jake Sullivan admitted that the relationship with Erdogan was difficult.
At the briefing from an anonymous official, whom everyone knew was Mr. Sullivan, there were negative comments about Erdogan. The Americans had decided not to clash head-on with the Turkish president, but also not to pamper him.
- At the same time, they took the decision to strengthen their relations with Greece to the highest degree. Also, they returned strongly to the Eastern Mediterranean, involving the Republic of Cyprus.
Read the text of the questions and answers below as they are eye-opening (and enjoyable). Along with the statements, we publish the video in question:
NEW YORK TIMES: Are you comfortable with the US still having nuclear weapons in Turkey, given Erdogan’s behavior? [ΣΗΜΕΙΩΣΗ: Οι Ηνωμένες Πολιτείες έχουν περίπου 50 πυρηνικά όπλα με βάση την Τουρκία. Αυτό άρχισε να προκαλεί δημόσιο διάλογο μετά την επίθεση της Τουρκίας στη Συρία τον Οκτώβριο].
BID: The answer is that my comfort level has gone down a lot. I spent a lot of time with Erdogan. [ΣΗΜΕΙΩΣΗ: Ο Μπάιντεν έπρεπε να προσφέρει στον Πρόεδρο Ρετζέπ Ταγίπ Ερντογάν μια επίσημη συγγνώμη το 2014 μετά τα σχόλια που έκανε ότι η Τουρκία έπαιξε ρόλο στην άνοδο του Ισλαμικού Κράτους (ISIS), προκαλώντας διπλωματικές εντάσεις].
More than anyone in government because Erdogan concluded he would only talk to me because he believed I was not anti-Islamic. Remember when I gave that speech at NATO saying, when (Erdoğan) was elected: “You should have extended your hand.
This is an opportunity to bring in another Muslim country.” And you knew why they acted like they did in other countries in Europe, not to reach out at all in the first elections. We have had –
NEW YORK TIMES: You mean because of anti-Muslim prejudice.
BID: Yes. I spent a lot of time with him. He is authoritarian. He is the President of Turkey and many others. What I think we need to do is take a very different approach to him now, making it clear that we support the opposition leaders.
To make it clear that we are in a position where we have a means that has been working for some time to integrate the Kurdish population who wanted to participate in the process in their parliament and so on. Because we have to talk about what we really believe to be wrong.
He must pay a price. He has to pay a price whether or not we continue to sell him certain weapons. In fact, if he has the air defense system that the F-15s fly in (ps: he means the F-35s) to see how they can try to figure out how to do it.
So that worries me a lot. I am very worried about this. But I still believe that if we were to engage more directly like I did with them, we could support the elements of the Turkish leadership that are still there and get more of them and encourage them to be able to take over and defeat Erdogan. Not with a coup, not with a coup, but with the electoral process.
He flew away. It broke out in Constantinople, it broke out in his party. So what do we do now? We just sat there and caved. And the last thing I would do is give in to the Kurds. This is the absolute last thing.
I had a few of these meetings with him about the Kurds, and they didn’t work out at the time. We have to say clearly that if they wish, because at the end of the day Turkey does not want to have to depend on Russia.
They ate a bite of that apple for a long time. But they understood that we will not continue to play with them as we have done. So I am very worried. I am very worried. I am very concerned about our airports and their access as well.
And I think it takes a lot of work to be able to come together with our allies in the region and (confront him), isolate his actions in the region, especially in the eastern Mediterranean with regard to oil and a whole series of ‘other things in which it takes a long time to report. But the answer is yes, I’m worried.
NOTE: Such was the conclusion of these declarations of the current American president. And any serious analyst thinks like normal people. Why would Joe Biden’s opinion of Tayyip Erdogan have changed?
Of course, that hasn’t changed. She remains the same. So, if the current President of Turkey is re-elected, as it seems, and if he remains the same, as so far, we will see an interesting political and diplomatic “game”, as we can not -be not seen before…
Erdogan last week accused Mr Biden of conspiring with the Turkish opposition to overthrow him. That’s basically what he believes. He will never forget what he truly believes: that Christian America is the enemy of Muslim Turkey…
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